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Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta 1.1 is here!
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 03:46
by Olivier13
Hi Jonathan
Good work! I really enjoy some new feature. Look more fast than previous version.
Regards
Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta 1.1 is here!
Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 18:46
by inventabuild
Hi Jonathan,
I can calculate the mass of a piece of filament 0.45 mm diameter x 10 mm long for the Ooze Mass (g) value using the results from Method 1, but it seems like weighing something that light requires a pretty accurate scale that has a bunch of 0's to the right of the decimal point. Since calculating it uses the results from Method 1 it's really not useful additional information so I'm wondering why it's required to input all values in Method 1 and Method 2 to calculate the ViscoElasticity. It seems like it s/ be required to fill in one Method's values or the other. Am I missing something?
Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta 1.1 is here!
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 02:33
by pjr
inventabuild wrote:Hi Jonathan,
I can calculate the mass of a piece of filament 0.45 mm diameter x 10 mm long for the Ooze Mass (g) value using the results from Method 1, but it seems like weighing something that light requires a pretty accurate scale that has a bunch of 0's to the right of the decimal point. Since calculating it uses the results from Method 1 it's really not useful additional information so I'm wondering why it's required to input all values in Method 1 and Method 2 to calculate the ViscoElasticity. It seems like it s/ be required to fill in one Method's values or the other. Am I missing something?
You can fill in either method 1 or method 2. You don't need to fill in both.
Peter
Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta 1.1 is here!
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 04:18
by inventabuild
Thanks Peter, when I zeroed out Method 2 values I got 0 for VE Preload which is why I thought I needed those values:

- Computed Preload VE 0.JPG (81.44 KiB) Viewed 3849 times
I went back and refreshed the Method 1 values and got my VE Preload value:

- Computed Preload VE 1.3.JPG (84.22 KiB) Viewed 3849 times
It would be a good idea for the Computed Preload VE to update itself when values are changed in any of the fields and note which Method's values are being used just to avoid confusion. Here's another example where I change the Drive Length from 100 t0 90, but I still have the same VE Preload value showing as in the picture directly above.

- Computed Preload Changed Drive Length.JPG (81.84 KiB) Viewed 3849 times
Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta 1.1 is here!
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 04:27
by inventabuild
Also, Jonathan mentions Tuning this VE Preload value. I see the Token <TUNINGVALUE> in the Printer G-code tab, but it's not readily apparent how to use it.
KS slows down on short paths
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 05:59
by Anar
Hi,
I've been testing this new release (not intensively, I must confess...).
I haven't played much with the new settings and did a first print with my usual settings.
And here are a few remarks :
- The supports are now larger without asking for that
- On small paths (not all of them) KS slows down a lot but without adapting the flow rate resulting in over-extrusion and blobs (see photo)
On this photo you can see very well the blob caused by over-extrusion.
I've added orange lines to show you where the speed slows down.
Where the blob occurs, it's a bridge over a 3mm diameter hole (top of the hole).
Maybe I'm doing something wrong so I post here my gcode file so you can have a look at my slicing settings.
I also added another photo of a print in progress of the same mesh but sliced in KS V1.5 release.
Except from warping, the print is correct.
Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta 1.1 is here!
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 06:17
by pjr
inventabuild wrote:Also, Jonathan mentions Tuning this VE Preload value. I see the Token <TUNINGVALUE> in the Printer G-code tab, but it's not readily apparent how to use it.
On the Style tab, select "Wizard Tuning"
From the menu line, select Wizards/Tuning Wizard
Select "PreloadVE Coef" for the Parameter to Tune and enter the start and end values (I would suggest 0 to 1). Note the interface will turn yellow to denote tuning wizard in operation.
Select the extruder you want to use, slice and print the tuning part (suggested model attached).
Look at the seam and determine the best Z value, enter that into the Best Z [mm] field and the PreloadVE to use will be displayed. Use that value for PreloadVE on the material tab.
Peter
Re: KS slows down on short paths
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 06:20
by pjr
Anar wrote:Hi,
I've been testing this new release (not intensively, I must confess...).
I haven't played much with the new settings and did a first print with my usual settings.
And here are a few remarks :
- The supports are now larger without asking for that
- On small paths (not all of them) KS slows down a lot but without adapting the flow rate resulting in over-extrusion and blobs (see photo)
On this photo you can see very well the blob caused by over-extrusion.
I've added orange lines to show you where the speed slows down.
Where the blob occurs, it's a bridge over a 3mm diameter hole (top of the hole).
Maybe I'm doing something wrong so I post here my gcode file so you can have a look at my slicing settings.
I also added another photo of a print in progress of the same mesh but sliced in KS V1.5 release.
Except from warping, the print is correct.
Hi Anar
Can't see your GCode file. Best to zip it before attaching. For the settings only, you could simply save the project file (Project/Save Project As), zip that up and upload.
May I suggest you try the tuning wizard as in my previous post.
Please note that the print will slow on unsupported lines (overhangs) according to the setting of the Material/Flow Adjust/Cool [mm^3/s] value.
Peter
Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta 1.1 is here!
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 06:51
by inventabuild
pjr wrote:inventabuild wrote:Also, Jonathan mentions Tuning this VE Preload value. I see the Token <TUNINGVALUE> in the Printer G-code tab, but it's not readily apparent how to use it.
On the Style tab, select "Wizard Tuning"
From the menu line, select Wizards/Tuning Wizard
Peter
I do not see the Wizards/Tuning Wizard style in my menu:
Is there a place I can download it from?
Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta 1.1 is here!
Posted: 07 Jul 2017, 06:55
by pjr
inventabuild wrote:I do not see the Wizards/Tuning Wizard style in my menu:
Is there a place I can download it from?
Here's mine.
Peter