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Re: KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 21 Mar 2015, 15:31
by Tonmaakt
Sloooooowly go I have not tested yet.
I will definitely do, I hope that helps.
Now a temporary solution used, with blue painters tape, see picture.
Not perfect, but it helps a little bit.
Greeting, Ton.

KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 26 Mar 2015, 17:06
by plexus
Hi. I am not sure if this should be posted here or in bug reporting. maybe I need to think about how the site is organized. the intent was that forums like "Bug Reporting" were for current release versions, and this was for beta. So my issues relate to beta and hence....

1. I was printing an item with a thin wall of 2.6mm. 0.6mm nozzle, 500um layers. there is a 1" hole in the wall and the wall was printed vertically. I had support on so that it would print a pillar of support in the hole. It was also putting some support up the outside of the wall up to the support in the hole. a small pillar of support just going up the outside of the wall! crazy. I couldnt get rid of it no matter the support angle setting. it did get thinner but once I set enough angle to get rid of it, the support in the hole stopped appearing.

2. I am finding at 100% infill, a 2"x0.5"x0.5" block requires that I reduce the filament feed by about 40%! other infills appear to print fine. it over-extrudes at 100%, or thats what it appears is happening.

3. I was using the % infill feature. Entered 67% and the infill extrusion width went from 0.6 to 0.802. huh? that's not what I want I want 67% infill. what is the interaction here?

Re: KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 27 Mar 2015, 17:52
by Dreide
plexus wrote:3. I was using the % infill feature. Entered 67% and the infill extrusion width went from 0.6 to 0.802. huh? that's not what I want I want 67% infill. what is the interaction here?
This is as expected. 67% infill is done by using the same paths as 50% and filling the remaining volume just by increasing extrusion width: 0.6/50*67=0.804.

Re: KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 29 Mar 2015, 19:31
by plexus
Dreide wrote:
plexus wrote:3. I was using the % infill feature. Entered 67% and the infill extrusion width went from 0.6 to 0.802. huh? that's not what I want I want 67% infill. what is the interaction here?
This is as expected. 67% infill is done by using the same paths as 50% and filling the remaining volume just by increasing extrusion width: 0.6/50*67=0.804.
hmm thats not really 67% then, is it? doesnt the infill % relate to the spacing of the infill and not the amount of material? if that is so I dont think the infill % feature should be as such. it should be an infill material adjust value. i think its misleading and can lead to results that are not what the user expects, unless of course I am misunderstanding...?

Re: KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 30 Mar 2015, 01:48
by kuebelkilelr
Hi

As I know from other slicers, the infill in % is handled like 100% is a solid block, and 0% is only perimeters printed.
Do I understand correctly that Kisslicer handles this as % of extrusion width? What is 100% extrusion width then?
Then 5% infill would be a nearly unprintable extrusion line. (on same layer height)

Best regards

Chris

Re: KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 30 Mar 2015, 04:39
by Dreide
plexus wrote:hmm thats not really 67% then, is it? doesnt the infill % relate to the spacing of the infill and not the amount of material? if that is so I dont think the infill % feature should be as such. it should be an infill material adjust value. i think its misleading and can lead to results that are not what the user expects, unless of course I am misunderstanding...?
The infill settings refer to both, spacing and material, and the GUI reflects this as the slider value refers to the spacing only (maybe it should be labeled with "Infill path spacing:"). At least for the "straight" infill, the spacing is realized by starting from a 100% infill path and then leaving every second, third, etc. line depending on the % value. That is why the values that can be selected just with the slider go like 100%,50%,33%,25%,... (=1/1, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, ...).
The GUI is confusing insofar as the infill extrusion width is not used with 100% infill spacing (but is not grayed out then) and is not changed back to the default extrusion width when the slider is used to set a new value.
I can see use for both, an adjustable spacing and an adjustable extrusion width, because both influences printing quality, mechanical part strength, and printing time. Although I would like to see a more fine-grained control of the infill spacing, this is not at the top of my wish list.

Re: KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 31 Mar 2015, 05:59
by Mikk36
Increasing extrusion path does create new issues though, because with increased extrusion width comes increased extrusion speed, which means it needs more heating to bond as well to the previous layer.

KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 31 Mar 2015, 11:51
by plexus
I think the controls should do what they say. If I cant actually pruduce a user entered infill % based on spacing then it should be relabled or removed. This "feature" negatively impacted a job I did for a client. At that point I start looking at competing tools. Usability is starting to be seriously impacted in KS.

Re: KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 16 Apr 2015, 18:26
by Snowfly
Noticed that there's been some changed to post processor handling on the kisslicer which affected the cubbeltmod.
So I'm just curious did it effect other post processors too... or is there just something wrong on my computer.
Cause seems like I cant get https://github.com/Intrinsically-Sublim ... -processor work on KISSlicer_Win64_1.5beta2.20. It's like it makes post processed file but nothing changes... tried different values on script file and no change...
Does someone have similar problem with the post processors? or does someone have some post processor which would work as flow tweak for holes?
Reason I'm looking for using that post processor is for the Nopheads calculations for holes.
Small holes become big problem when using E3D Volcano 1.2mm hotend with 0.9mm layer height and 1.45mm extrusion width. For note I'aint going the easy route to scale model for prints. I'm calibrating PRINTER for the MODELS.

Re: KISSlicer 1.5 Beta 2 - in development

Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 06:44
by inventabuild
Ext Map tab doesn't hold the Material selections the first time when the Printer tab Number of Extruders = 2.

This is how I found the error:
1. In Ext Map tab select new Materials for Extruder 1 and Extruder 2.
2. Go to Matl tab and take a look at the new Materials you just selected by selecting their name's one by one in the Material Name field. Don't change any of the settings.
3 Go back to Ext Map tab and you'll see the old Materials are back in the Extruder 1 and Extruder 2 fields.